We all know that paldo is a gnome distribution. Xfce is also gtk-based. Why not create also a xfce-livecd for paldo.

I can't do it alone. Here are the steps needed to do it:

create a paldo-xfce team

update xfce packages to latest version (progress)

test new xfce packages in testing branch

add xfce goodies for 4.6.0 and up

build and upload xfce-livecd

test xfce-livecd

create html-page for xfce-livecd

link html-page to paldo.org

If your interesting joining the paldo-xfce team write me a pm/email or answer.

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Paldo XFCE LiveCD 2k9 Alpha4

Is a paldo-xfce livecd needed?

Yes for shure		4	36%
Yes, I wanna help you creating it		3	27%
Maybe, I'll only use XFCE as a second desktop		3	27%
No, don't waste your time		1	9%

i think it might be a good idea only if this work does not affect the rest of Paldo.
You know you can always count on me (now i am almost ready to package) but if you/us can't follow this project or the users aren't interested in this project it doesn't have sense to continue, IMHO!
Finally, I think it is better to concentrate our force on the implementation of new packages/new features
 
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OS: Paldo-1.18-testing (Gnome 2.26.2)

I'm starting to build the first live-cd. It doesn't affect paldo-live-cd at all.

Writing script...
Executing script...
The following extra packages will be installed:
filesystem-hierarchy-stage1 tar-stage1 binutils-stage1 gcc-bootstrap filesystem-hierarchy-stage2 linux-headers-stage2 glibc-stage2 gcc-stage1 binutils-stage2 gcc-stage2 gawk-stage2 coreutils-stage2 bzip2-stage2 gzip-stage2 diffutils-stage2 findutils-stage2 m4-stage2 bison-stage2 flex-stage2 make-stage2 grep-stage2 sed-stage2 gettext-stage2 ncurses-stage2 patch-stage2 tar-stage2 texinfo-stage2 bash-stage2 upkg-stage2 shadow-stage2 perl-stage2 upkg-watch filesystem-hierarchy man-pages-posix man-pages linux-headers glibc binutils gcc coreutils zlib gawk ncurses m4 sed pkgconfig glib-2.0 readline bc mono gettext net-tools bison bash diffutils file grep gzip make less debianutils bzip2 groff cron man procps patch findutils cpio db flex Linux-PAM openssl cyrus-sasl pcre postfix shadow tar at psmisc sysvinit udev e2fsprogs util-linux ed nail pax time dpkg boot-scripts lsb-release perl texinfo module-init-tools kbd grub klibc device-mapper dmraid autoconf automake linux-2.6-firmware linux-2.6-2.6.28.8-paldo1-x86 popt logrotate sysklogd gpm vim which zip unzip screen sudo nano pwgen lsof upkg pciutils libusb usbutils sqlite3 Python alsa-lib libxml2 libxslt expat dbus-1 dbus-glib-1 libtool attr libcap XML-Parser intltool radeontool pm-utils libx86 vbetool dmidecode reiserfsprogs dosfstools parted gperf hal libnl-1 bluez ndiswrapper-2.6.28.8-paldo1-x86 ndiswrapper slmodem irda-utils hdparm smartmontools sgml-base xml-core sgml-data docbook-xml docbook-xsl xmlto alsa-utils sysfsutils pcmciautils ipw2100-fw ipw2200-fw iwlwifi-3945-ucode iwlwifi-4965-ucode iwlwifi-5000-ucode broadcom-wl libpcap ppp aircard-8xx tcp_wrappers net-snmp apcupsd powertop microcode_ctl rt61-firmware rt71w-firmware xfsprogs ntfsprogs fuse ntfs-3g cmake cdrkit dvd+rw-tools mdadm cdparanoia mad lame libogg libvorbis cdrdao acl squashfs unionfs-utils autofs libgpg-error libgcrypt swig python-m2crypto crda curl dhcpcd libdaemon ifupdown ifplugd iftop xinetd inetutils iproute2 ipsec-tools iptables lynx mailutils wireless_tools PolicyKit nspr nss wpa_supplicant NetworkManager libevent openldap libnfsidmap portmap nfs-utils nmap ntp openssh rp-pppoe rsync tcpdump traceroute unison wget gdb strace valgrind cvs mime-support httpd neon subversion rcs git bzr vala xorg-macros xproto xcb-proto xau pthread-stubs xdmcp xcb xextproto xtrans xf86bigfontproto kbproto inputproto x11 ice sm xt xext evieproto xevie xi makedepend xmu xf86vidmodeproto xxf86vm libdrm glproto damageproto fixesproto xfixes xdamage dri2proto mesa libpng jpeg freetype fontconfig OpenSP XML-NamespaceSupport XML-SAX XML-SAX-Expat docbook2x rarian gnome-doc-utils atk renderproto xrender xft glitz pixman-1 cairo openjade gtk-doc pango randrproto xrandr xineramaproto xinerama xcursor tiff jasper cups gtk+-2.0 xcmiscproto scrnsaverproto bigreqsproto resourceproto fontsproto fontenc xfont videoproto compositeproto trapproto recordproto xf86driproto xkbfile pciaccess xf86dgaproto xf86miscproto xv xorg-server xf86-input-evdev xf86-input-synaptics xf86-input-vmmouse xf86-video-ati xf86-video-glint xvmc xf86-video-intel xf86-video-nv xf86-video-r128 xf86-video-radeonhd xf86-video-s3 xf86-video-s3virge xf86-video-savage xf86-video-siliconmotion xf86-video-sis xf86-video-sisusb xf86-video-tdfx xf86-video-trident xf86-video-vesa xf86-video-vmware nvidia-glx-2.6.28.8-paldo1-x86 nvidia-glx mkfontscale font-encodings bdftopcf font-util mkfontdir font-misc-misc font-cursor-misc font-alias ttf-bitstream-vera xkbcomp xkeyboard-config rgb xcursorgen xcursor-themes xinit xkill xtst xxf86dga xxf86misc dmxproto dmx xdpyinfo xev setxkbmap xgamma xhost xinput xmodmap xrandrutil xset xtrap xpm xaw xterm xauth xlsatoms xlsclients xlsfonts xprop xvinfo xwininfo xdriinfo xcomposite xcompmgr transset xmag x-window-system libart libIDL ORBit-2.0 dbus-1-x11 gconf-2.0 samba shared-mime-info graphviz ghostscript doxygen gdbm avahi gnome-vfs-2.0 libgsf-1 libcroco-0.6 librsvg-2.0 hicolor-icon-theme xfce4-dev-tools libxfce4util-1.0 xfconf libglade-2.0 startup-notification libxfcegui4-1.0 libxfce4menu URI exo-0.3 xres libwnck xfce4-panel libexif gamin Thunar libnotify xfce4-settings iceauth libbonobo-2.0 paldo-theme libgnome-2.0 xfce4-session xfdesktop xfwm4 xfwm4-themes aspell enchant PyXML iso-codes libsexy polkit-gnome libtasn1 opencdk gnutls libproxy-1.0 libsoup-2.4 gnome-keyring gweather libical evolution-data-server-1.2 gnome-desktop gnome-common gnome-menus pygobject pycairo pygtk alacarte gnome-panel gstreamer-0.10 liboil-0.3 libtheora libvisual-0.4 gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10 libxklavier lcms ImageMagick XML-Simple icon-naming-utils gnome-icon-theme libgnomecanvas-2.0 libbonoboui-2.0 libgnomeui-2.0 libgnomekbd flac sndfile fftw3 samplerate speex pulseaudio gnome-settings-daemon sessreg gdm xfce-utils xfce4-mixer xfprint xfce4-appfinder gtk-xfce-engine xfce4-icon-theme-1.0 libxfce4mcs xfce-mcs-manager orage mousepad vte Terminal libsigc++-2.0 glibmm-2.4 cairomm-1.0 pangomm-1.4 gtkmm-2.4 libgksu1.2 libgksuui1.0 gksu gparted paldo-installer

The following packages will be built from source:
filesystem-hierarchy-stage1 filesystem-hierarchy-stage2 filesystem-hierarchy xfce4-dev-tools libxfce4util-1.0 xfconf libxfcegui4-1.0 libxfce4menu exo-0.3 xfce4-panel Thunar xfce4-settings xfce4-session xfdesktop xfwm4 xfwm4-themes xfce-utils xfce4-mixer xfprint xfce4-appfinder gtk-xfce-engine orage

The following packages will be updated:
paldo-base-stage2 paldo-base paldo-xfce-live make-iso paldo-xfce-live-cd

Do you want to continue? [Y/n]

Zitat

Finally, I think it is better to concentrate our force on the implementation of new packages/new features

XFCE is a new feature for paldo. Nobody cared much for this desktop. It is gtk and much easier to do than a kde-livecd. You have just to create two new spec-files based on paldo-live and paldo-live-cd. Creating custom live-cd is really easy.

Just add this repo to your local upkg.conf:

Code	[In neuem Fenster öffnen]
sed -i -e 's%<repositories>%&\n<repository>http://paldo.org/~amnon/paldo-xfce-live-cd/</repository>%' /etc/upkg.conf

I messed some stuff up. second try:

Writing script...
Executing script...
The following extra packages will be installed:
filesystem-hierarchy-stage1 tar-stage1 binutils-stage1 gcc-bootstrap filesystem-hierarchy-stage2 linux-headers-stage2 glibc-stage2 gcc-stage1 binutils-stage2 gcc-stage2 gawk-stage2 coreutils-stage2 bzip2-stage2 gzip-stage2 diffutils-stage2 findutils-stage2 m4-stage2 bison-stage2 flex-stage2 make-stage2 grep-stage2 sed-stage2 gettext-stage2 ncurses-stage2 patch-stage2 tar-stage2 texinfo-stage2 bash-stage2 upkg-stage2 shadow-stage2 perl-stage2 upkg-watch filesystem-hierarchy man-pages-posix man-pages linux-headers glibc binutils gcc coreutils zlib gawk ncurses m4 sed pkgconfig glib-2.0 readline bc mono gettext net-tools bison bash diffutils file grep gzip make less debianutils bzip2 groff cron man procps patch findutils cpio db flex Linux-PAM openssl cyrus-sasl pcre postfix shadow tar at psmisc sysvinit udev e2fsprogs util-linux ed nail pax time dpkg boot-scripts lsb-release perl texinfo module-init-tools kbd grub klibc device-mapper dmraid autoconf automake linux-2.6-firmware linux-2.6-2.6.28.8-paldo1-x86 popt logrotate sysklogd gpm vim which zip unzip screen sudo nano pwgen lsof upkg pciutils libusb usbutils sqlite3 Python alsa-lib libxml2 libxslt expat dbus-1 dbus-glib-1 libtool attr libcap XML-Parser intltool radeontool pm-utils libx86 vbetool dmidecode reiserfsprogs dosfstools parted gperf hal libnl-1 bluez ndiswrapper-2.6.28.8-paldo1-x86 ndiswrapper slmodem irda-utils hdparm smartmontools sgml-base xml-core sgml-data docbook-xml docbook-xsl xmlto alsa-utils sysfsutils pcmciautils ipw2100-fw ipw2200-fw iwlwifi-3945-ucode iwlwifi-4965-ucode iwlwifi-5000-ucode broadcom-wl libpcap ppp aircard-8xx tcp_wrappers net-snmp apcupsd powertop microcode_ctl rt61-firmware rt71w-firmware xfsprogs ntfsprogs fuse ntfs-3g cmake cdrkit dvd+rw-tools mdadm cdparanoia mad lame libogg libvorbis cdrdao acl squashfs unionfs-utils autofs libgpg-error libgcrypt swig python-m2crypto crda curl dhcpcd libdaemon ifupdown ifplugd iftop xinetd inetutils iproute2 ipsec-tools iptables lynx mailutils wireless_tools PolicyKit nspr nss wpa_supplicant NetworkManager libevent openldap libnfsidmap portmap nfs-utils nmap ntp openssh rp-pppoe rsync tcpdump traceroute unison wget gdb strace valgrind cvs mime-support httpd neon subversion rcs git bzr vala xorg-macros xproto xcb-proto xau pthread-stubs xdmcp xcb xextproto xtrans xf86bigfontproto kbproto inputproto x11 ice sm xt xext evieproto xevie xi makedepend xmu xf86vidmodeproto xxf86vm libdrm glproto damageproto fixesproto xfixes xdamage dri2proto mesa libpng jpeg freetype fontconfig OpenSP XML-NamespaceSupport XML-SAX XML-SAX-Expat docbook2x rarian gnome-doc-utils atk renderproto xrender xft glitz pixman-1 cairo openjade gtk-doc pango randrproto xrandr xineramaproto xinerama xcursor tiff jasper cups gtk+-2.0 xcmiscproto scrnsaverproto bigreqsproto resourceproto fontsproto fontenc xfont videoproto compositeproto trapproto recordproto xf86driproto xkbfile pciaccess xf86dgaproto xf86miscproto xv xorg-server xf86-input-evdev xf86-input-synaptics xf86-input-vmmouse xf86-video-ati xf86-video-glint xvmc xf86-video-intel xf86-video-nv xf86-video-r128 xf86-video-radeonhd xf86-video-s3 xf86-video-s3virge xf86-video-savage xf86-video-siliconmotion xf86-video-sis xf86-video-sisusb xf86-video-tdfx xf86-video-trident xf86-video-vesa xf86-video-vmware nvidia-glx-2.6.28.8-paldo1-x86 nvidia-glx mkfontscale font-encodings bdftopcf font-util mkfontdir font-misc-misc font-cursor-misc font-alias ttf-bitstream-vera xkbcomp xkeyboard-config rgb xcursorgen xcursor-themes xinit xkill xtst xxf86dga xxf86misc dmxproto dmx xdpyinfo xev setxkbmap xgamma xhost xinput xmodmap xrandrutil xset xtrap xpm xaw xterm xauth xlsatoms xlsclients xlsfonts xprop xvinfo xwininfo xdriinfo xcomposite xcompmgr transset xmag x-window-system libart libIDL ORBit-2.0 dbus-1-x11 gconf-2.0 samba shared-mime-info graphviz ghostscript doxygen gdbm avahi gnome-vfs-2.0 libgsf-1 libcroco-0.6 librsvg-2.0 hicolor-icon-theme xfce4-dev-tools libxfce4util-1.0 xfconf libglade-2.0 startup-notification libxfcegui4-1.0 libxfce4menu URI exo-0.3 xres libwnck xfce4-panel libexif gamin Thunar libnotify xfce4-settings iceauth libbonobo-2.0 paldo-theme libgnome-2.0 xfce4-session xfdesktop xfwm4 xfwm4-themes aspell enchant PyXML iso-codes libsexy polkit-gnome libtasn1 opencdk gnutls libproxy-1.0 libsoup-2.4 gnome-keyring gweather libical evolution-data-server-1.2 gnome-desktop gnome-common gnome-menus pygobject pycairo pygtk alacarte gnome-panel gstreamer-0.10 liboil-0.3 libtheora libvisual-0.4 gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10 libxklavier lcms ImageMagick XML-Simple icon-naming-utils gnome-icon-theme libgnomecanvas-2.0 libbonoboui-2.0 libgnomeui-2.0 libgnomekbd flac sndfile fftw3 samplerate speex pulseaudio gnome-settings-daemon sessreg gdm xfce-utils xfce4-mixer xfprint xfce4-appfinder gtk-xfce-engine xfce4-icon-theme-1.0 libxfce4mcs xfce-mcs-manager orage mousepad vte Terminal libsigc++-2.0 glibmm-2.4 cairomm-1.0 pangomm-1.4 gtkmm-2.4 libgksu1.2 libgksuui1.0 gksu gparted desktop-file-utils paldo-installer

The following packages will be built from source:
filesystem-hierarchy-stage1 filesystem-hierarchy-stage2 filesystem-hierarchy

The following packages will be updated:
paldo-base-stage2 paldo-base paldo-xfce-live make-iso paldo-xfce-live-cd

Do you want to continue? [Y/n]


... well the build server created the binaries already ...

First ISO:

links removed

Nothing special. still have to strip out some gnome stuff. Please test if upkg works and if you can install it on a local pc. ISO should be online in one hour after this post.

Zitat

XFCE is a new feature for paldo.

Yes, you have reason

Zitat

First ISO: paldo-xfce-live-cd-testing-2009-03-26-1524 (380 MB)

I'm downloading it
 
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OS: Paldo-1.18-testing (Gnome 2.26.2)

livecd working perfectly, now i'm going to install it...
 
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OS: Paldo-1.18-testing (Gnome 2.26.2)

tell me what you think about the first build. Also we've to think if we use gdm or xdm as session loader. The size is much smaller, cos it is a core build.
Not all packages are installed yet. It would be best if a separate install of paldo-xfce-live-cd is one of your developer pcs. I'll install it on my laptop.
Hope I did a good base to start the project.

i have install it in virtualbox and the installed system don't start. I think it is a virtualbox problem (i hope), so i'm going to install it in my laptop partition.
However, yes i've seen that it is a core system, very few applications, 380MB, 2minutes to install
Very good work philip i think this is a very good base for the project!
Now i hope in my laptop the sistem start, i will tell you after (now i trying study :cry
 
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OS: Paldo-1.18-testing (Gnome 2.26.2)