Sad news,
over the last few weeks, I lost a lot of functionality and after typing this post, i will un install paldo from the laptop too.
A few days ago, I lost the tap function on the touch pad and a new install two days ago only worked for a day.
Over the last few days, the keyboard keeps resetting to Swiss German layout with makes typing difficult, especially with the characters needed to type in URLs and stuff like that.
I do not know what happened but the fact that i can not set the keyboard to English (which used to work) is the final straw.
It all started about two weeks ago and ever since then, i have a hard time to connect to the wireless (on my laptop) as it takes five to ten tries just to log on.
On the workstations, I am using Fedora 10 for now and what distro will go on the laptop will depend on what i can download.

What has changed since the December 1 ISO?
I downloaed a new iso from the 14th and it gives me the same problems. Swiss layout which defaults back to Swiss, no matter what i set and on the laptop no tapping on the touch pad which makes navigation difficult because i am not used to it.

Anyway, I hope that there is an answer to this mess because over the last few months i have loved using paldo and hope that all of this can be sorted out again.
I will check this forum once in a while to see what others are experiencing and maybe in a few weeks give it another try.

This was hard to type because i am not used to a Swiss German layout.

Ciao for now (smile)

I noticed also that I had swiss keyboard layout again. I went to System - Preferences -Keyboard and added german keyboard layout to remove the swiss one:



the output of /etc/default/kbd is:

# Default keymap
DEFKEYMAP=de-latin1
XKBLAYOUT=de
XKBVARIANT=

So you tell me something was changed since 1.12.08. Well I'll look into the svn log of paldo ...

Also this will help alot:

Install hardinfo

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sudo upkg-install hardinfo

and run

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hardinfo -r

in a terminal. The output should be something like this:

http://pastebin.com/m641d29d

will also work during a live cd session ...

Thanks Amnon,
a day has passed and I'm a bit calmer now :)
The last few days were just a bit stressful as we had a few projects to finish and on top of that, the OS acted up. You know how it is, when you need something the most ...
Anyway, I hope that future releases of "testing" will be ok again and over the next few days, I will examine our hardware to see if something needs/can be upgraded so that we can avoid incompatibility issues down the road.

I'll stop by the channel before Christmas and hope to have a (quick) chat with you :-)
Talk to you soon, dancing man!

I noticed on my laptop that I got swiss layout there too. I'll use it as a better dvd-player during traveling from E to M (Ebersberg to Munich) to my work. Since swiss and german are almost the same layout I didn't noticed until I tapped a button and the sign was different as wanted. Seems the gnome-update did it or so.
Jürg is in stress to so I don't got an answer from him yet.

Also I tried Opensolaris today on my laptop:

Plus side

Time-Machine is a feature where you can jump back in time if the system is broken or even you installed bad packages

some extra repositories for "bad" packages like libdvdc**

good documentation of the OS

Minus side

graphical pgk-manager too slow

pkg-manager cmds you've to learn

lot of hardware not supported (powernow of my amd works in paldo but NOT in OS)

some things are unstable

I might try to build blender for OpenSolaris, but only to show that it works.
Using OS atm for me is a nogo ...

Hello my friend,
i saw some comparison between Linux, FreeBSD and OpenSolaris and on "most" tests, Linux was faster. OS managed to read/write more files than the others and java was another area where it outperformed but that was about it.
It is impressive that Linux has become so fast, especially for rendering!

A few months ago, i installed OS to see what the hype is all about but needless to say, it didn't last long on my HD. I'm sure OS has a purpose but not in the arts ;)

I got everything up and running again but to keep Houdini happy, I had to install fedora10 which is bulky and "feels" slow compared against what I'm used to :-)

I was just thinking that "maybe" installing the stable branch of paldo would be better until testing is behaving as it should :)

OK, maybe we can chat on the weekend .... if your legs are not to sore ...


Be good ;)



P.S. I just found the URL which I was referring to:
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=os_threeway_2008&num=1

I reinstalled paldo again on my lappy. I noticed that gdm has swiss keyboad layout as jürg told me. There was a bug so we decided to use swiss as default instead of english-us. We will look into it ... OpenSolaris got only couple of hours on my pc

We should consider the patch jürg pointed me too:

http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewvc/devel/gdm/gdm-system-keyboard.patch?revision=1.1&view=markup

I adapted the patch to paldo. Can somebody test it?

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sudo sed -i -e 's%<repositories>%&\n<repository>http://paldo.org/~amnon/amnon-paldo-repo</repository>%' /etc/upkg.conf sudo upkg-build --verbose gdm

seems I got the patch wrong. gdm jumps to us layout, so the function is wrong:

/+static char *
+get_system_default_layout (void)
+{
+ gchar *text, *p, *q;
+ gsize *length;
+ char *result;
+
+ result = NULL;
+ if (g_file_get_contents ("/etc/default/kbd", &text, &length, NULL)) {
+ p = strstr (text, "DEFKEYMAP=\"");
+ if (p) {
+ p += strlen ("DEFKEYMAP=\"");
+ q = strchr (p, '"');
+ if (q) {
+ result = g_strndup (p, q - p);
+ }
+ }
+ g_free (text);
+ }
+
+ if (!result) {
+ result = g_strdup ("us");
+ }
+
+ return result;
+}/

our layout:

/# Default keymap
DEFKEYMAP=de-latin1
XKBLAYOUT=de
XKBVARIANT=/

here the original one:

/+static char *
+get_system_default_layout (void)
+{
+ gchar *text, *p, *q;
+ gsize *length;
+ char *result;
+
+ result = NULL;
+ if (g_file_get_contents ("/etc/sysconfig/keyboard", &text, &length, NULL)) {
+ p = strstr (text, "KEYTABLE=\"");
+ if (p) {
+ p += strlen ("KEYTABLE=\"");
+ q = strchr (p, '"');
+ if (q) {
+ result = g_strndup (p, q - p);
+ }
+ }
+ g_free (text);
+ }
+
+ if (!result) {
+ result = g_strdup ("us");
+ }
+
+ return result;
+}/

and the file the function is for:

http://linux.derkeiler.com/pdf/Mailing-Lists/Fedora/2004-11/8765.pdf

I'm trying it now this way:

/+static char *
+get_system_default_layout (void)
+{
+ gchar *text, *p, *q;
+ gsize *length;
+ char *result;
+
+ result = NULL;
+ if (g_file_get_contents ("/etc/default/kbd", &text, &length, NULL)) {
+ p = strstr (text, "DEFKEYMAP=");
+ if (p) {
+ p += strlen ("DEFKEYMAP=");
+ q = strchr (p, '"');
+ if (q) {
+ result = g_strndup (p, q - p);
+ }
+ }
+ g_free (text);
+ }
+
+ if (!result) {
+ result = g_strdup ("us");
+ }
+
+ return result;
+}/


... but I think it is still wrong cos we don't have quote-signs.

What I think might be right:

search for the line with DEFKEYMAP= in it

copy the whole line to a variable

remove DEFKEYMAP= from the variable

result is the rest of the line

Example:

LINE: DEFKEYMAP=de-latin1
VARIABLE: DEFKEYMAP=de-latin1
cleaned VARIABLE: de-latin1
RESULT: de-latin1

might be right:

+ if (g_file_get_contents ("/etc/default/kbd", &text, &length, NULL)) {
#search for line
+ p = strstr (text, "DEFKEYMAP=");
+ if (p) {
#get length of word to match
+ p += strlen ("DEFKEYMAP=");
#get length of complete line
+ q = strlen (p);
+ if (q) {
#result begins after word to match and ends with last sign of line
+ result = g_strndup (p, q - p);
+ }
+ }
+ g_free (text);
+ }